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STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« on: December 16, 2011, 14:04:43 »
hi, in the star trek enhanced space combat mod i found the mission type STECC_Skirmisher.
is there any difference between the mission-type STECC_Skirmisher and the WarBeginsSkirmisher?
or they are the same, only titled different??

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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 01:44:36 »
The star trek mission only raises shield on start up, the war begins one does a couple more things, like handle the hyperspace effect, for example.

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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 11:24:53 »
oh, that's very interesting.
so it's better to take the warbeginsskirmisher for the battles.
thanks, for your answer.

one more question:
what's the hyperspace effect? and why it need to be handled in skirmisher?
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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 15:49:38 »
No, you shouldn't. The warBegins skirmisher only works on the War Begins mod, the Star Trek skirmisher works on the Star Trek mod.

The hyperspace effect on the War Begins mod is when you press F11 if I'm not mistaken and your ship leaves the scene using it's hyperspace drive.
Since it's something custom, it has to be handled privately, that's why I made a new Skirmisher battle type exclusevely for that mod.

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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 22:44:31 »
hm, but i have no problems using the warbeginsskirmisher mission type for other mods like UAW and especially for the ST Enhanced Space Combat mod. it works fine, without any problem. it seems like, the warbeginsskirmisher works a little bit better with the ST Enhanced Space Combat than its own STESC_skirmisher, because the ships fight and fly better, but maybe this is only subjective awareness.
are there any known bugs/problems if i using the warbeginsskirmisher with other mods??


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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 00:34:56 »
huhm... weird. Perhaps you're running an older mention, but I was sure it wouldn't work on any other mod... oh well.

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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 09:57:36 »
it works very fine. why do you thought it wouldn't work with other mods?

my version:                                                   last edit on:
warbegins_cinema_mode_ai.mach_             27.04.2009   12:31
warbegins_cinema_mode_obj.mach_           26.01.2005   01:26
WarBeginsSkirmisher_ai.mach_                    04.05.2009   19:12
WarBeginsSkirmisher_obj.mach_                  26.04.2009   16:21



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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 15:17:20 »
I don't think those are the latest files, are you running the War Begins Beta 11?
If you're not I highly recommend you download it, a lot of new features are present in that beta, like our brand new command panel, new models, the works.

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it works very fine. why do you thought it wouldn't work with other mods?

Well, I did wrote those files...
In the latest version I tidied things up and placed all the "extra" files in a folder called includes and then had the skirmisher access those files instead of writing the code directly there, so if the mod you're running is not war begins, the mission type won't find those included files and it'll give you an error.

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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 19:25:41 »
oh no i didn't run the beta11, i found that warbeginsskirmisher files in the STESC skirmisher folder, where i also found the STESC_skirmisher itself. so maybe the modder from the STESC used your warbeginsskirmisher as a blueprint for his own STESC_skirmisher??

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Re: STECC_Skirmisher and WarBeginsSkirmisher mission types
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 22:58:21 »
oh... yeah, he did. I think he only copied my/arparso's shield coding, though.